Creating Experiences - All Things Product Podcast with Teresa Torres & Petra Wille
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What makes an event truly unforgettable — and what can product teams learn from it? In this episode, Teresa sits down with Petra Wille to explore how Petra and her co-organizer Arne design experiences (not just events) at Product at Heart and their Product Leadership gatherings. From a candlelit speakers' dinner in a rosemary-covered greenhouse to a disco ball that appeared for exactly 20 seconds, Petra shares how intentional design, sensory details, and a little bit of goofy magic help attendees shed their corporate armor and open up to real inspiration and connection. Teresa draws the parallels back to product design — from designing for delight and awe, to the classic question of who you're choosing to serve.
In this episode, Teresa and Petra explore the art of creating experiences — whether at a conference or in a product — and why the details that seem extravagant are often the ones that matter most.
Topics covered:
How Petra and Arne designed the Product at Heart Leadership Event across one and a half days, including a farm excursion, and a leadership improv workshop
Why you can't curate an experience that makes everyone happy — and what to do instead
Designing for choice: self-select paths, the "Hard Problems Club," and how to serve niche audiences within a broad event
The role of sensory experience in unlocking inspiration — rosemary, zucchinis-as-instruments, and a three-meter disco ball
What Petra calls "serendipity moments" — creating space for people to shed their corporate armor and make unexpected connections
Teresa's reflections on the World Domination Summit and the concept of designing for awe
The difference between novelty and awe — and why awe takes people out of the mundane and expands what feels possible
How all of this translates directly to product thinking: who are you serving, how are you designing for delight, and when is it worth the extra investment?
Key quote:
"If we can get through that armor and shut off the business reflexes, then inspiration is more likely to hit." — Petra Wille
Resources & Links:
Follow Teresa Torres: https://ProductTalk.org
Follow Petra Wille: https://Petra-Wille.com
Mentioned in this episode:
Strong Product People by Petra Wille
Product at Heart — Speakers Dinner Leadership (see the rosemary garden!)
Arne Kittler of Product at Heart
Product at Heart Conference — Hamburg 2026 (read about the Hard Problem Clubs)
House of Beautiful Business — an event that inspired Petra and Arne's approach to sensory experience
Petra’s recap for this year’s House of Beautiful Business in Tangier — Rituals, Rugs, and Radical Tenderness - My Experience at the House of Beautiful Business in Tangier
World Domination Summit — founded by Chris Guillebeau; "How to live a remarkable life in a conventional world"
Derek Sivers — mentioned as a spoken word contributor at experiential events