Leadership Professional Development - All Things Product Podcast with Teresa Torres & Petra Wille
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In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres dive deep into the often-overlooked topic of professional development for product leaders. Drawing from their own experiences and coaching practices, they explore why leaders struggle to invest in themselves, what the real blockers are (spoiler: it’s not just budget), and how to navigate growth despite uncertainty and overwhelm.
From frameworks like the Learning Menu to the uncomfortable truth about leading during downturns, this episode is both a rallying cry and a practical guide for any product leader ready to take their development seriously. Vulnerability, coaching, reflective practices, and skill-building—all on the table.
Whether you're a head of product, a seasoned CPO, or simply a product leader feeling stuck—this one's for you.
Topics Covered:
Why the Product at Heart leadership event in Barcelona was canceled—and what it taught us
The hidden stigma of coaching for leaders
Vulnerability as a leadership skill
The Learning Menu framework: how to invest in your development at any budget level
From free resources to high-ticket coaching—how to choose the right growth path
Reflection, journaling, and emotional resilience in product leadership
The importance of finding your learning “dojo”
How conferences offer more than just talks (think: peer benchmarking and teaching tactics)
Ethical coaching boundaries and what happens when coaching reveals misalignment
Resources & Links:
Follow Teresa Torres: https://ProductTalk.org
Follow Petra Wille: https://Petra-Wille.com
Mentioned in the episode:
Product Talk Academy - Teresa’s Product Discovery Courses
Coaching for Product Leaders/Executives with Petra Wille
Behind the founder: Drew Houston (Dropbox) - Lenny Rachitsky’s podcast episode with Drew Houston
How the “Learning Menu” Concept Can Help Develop Your Product Team - Petra’s Learning Menu article
Product Talk Blog - Teresa’s blog
Product Leadership Blog - Petra’s blog
Product Talk Academy Free Mini Courses - Teresa’s free mini-course
Continuous Discovery Habits Membership - Teresa’s community for continuous discovery practitioners and features monthly leadership calls.
Quarterly Leadership Newsletter with Petra
Continuous Discovery Habits - Teresa’s book
STRONG Product People and STRONG Product Communities - Petra’s books
Workshops by David Bland and Jeff Gothelf
Christina Wodtke’s book Present Yourself
Finding Your Learning Headline - from Petra’s blog post