Recorded Conversations - All Things Product Podcast with Teresa Torres & Petra Wille

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We now record almost everything — every meeting has an AI note-taker, and some people wear glasses that capture every word. So what does that do to our relationships when nothing is forgotten and everything can be fact-checked?

Petra Wille and Teresa Torres explore the promise and the unease of a fully-transcribed world. Teresa shares how checking her own Granola transcripts revealed she'd been misremembering conversations — and getting frustrated with people over things she never actually said. Petra describes the strange feeling of a colleague pulling up a transcript to correct her recollection of her own past opinion. Together they get to the bigger question: should we hold people accountable to what they said weeks ago, or grant each other permission to evolve?

Key Takeaways

  • Your memory is not a recording — Teresa's transcripts repeatedly showed her that her confident recollections didn't match what was actually said.

  • Use it on yourself first. Checking your own transcripts to spot blind spots feels very different from having someone use them against you.

  • Give people permission to evolve. What someone said three weeks ago matters far less than what they think now.

  • The same record can be a collaboration tool or a weapon — the difference is intent and the permission to change your mind.

  • Notes ≠ transcript ≠ truth. Each layer adds interpretation, so don't build a conversation on a record you haven't verified.

Pull Quotes

  • "My perception of reality is not the same as reality." — Teresa

  • "Why does it matter what you might have said three weeks ago? Doesn't it matter more what you think now?" — Teresa

  • "We need to grant each other the right of evolved opinions." — Petra

  • "My brain just made up a whole new t-shirt that does not exist in the world." — Teresa

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